Observations of the
Fortec FC90 sat dish focal point using mirrors.
Several years ago, I needed to
find a way to determine the focal point
of my small 90CM Fortec dish. I wasn't exactly sure how to
do this, but I decided that the easiest way would be to glue mirrors onto the surface
of the dish, and aim the
dish at the sun, and find the point where each mirror reflects to the
same place at the same time.
I decided to glue 5 little mirrors onto the surface
of the dish, at top, bottom, right, left and center :

closeup of one of mirrors:

and I attached a fake LNBF into the holder,

then moved the dish until the reflections from the 5 mirrors
focused on the fake LNBF, as shown above. Well part of the
problem, as can be
seen in the picture below, is that the 5 reflections didn't coalesce
into a single spot, which is evidence that the dish surface is not
perfect, or that the lnbf arm wasn't located anywhere near the actual
focal point.
Interestingly, I actually found one spot, about an inch
above the LNBF
holder, where 4 of the 5 mirror spots (all except the center spot)
focused at the same point, however using this focal point would require
bending the LNBF arm, which I didn't want to do at this point.
But it does look like the dish seems to be shaped fairly well if
another focal point would be used.
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Being concerned about the fact that the 5 little mirrors don't all
reflect to the same focal point, but not being sure if the thickness of
the mirrors was altering the results, I decided to try to find a THIN
mirror material, that wouldn't be substantially different from the
surface of the dish.
I first tried gluing on small squares of aluminum
foil. I thought this would work, however it wasn't a perfect
enough reflector, and I wasn't able to see the spots on my fake lnbf.
Since I live in an area with natural mica, and having
noticed how mica rocks will reflect the sun very well for hundreds of
feet, I thought that might be a good surface, plus mica sheets can be
separated to individual sheets that are much thinner than a sheet of
paper, probably thinner than the paint on the dish.
However, this didn't work either. I'm not exactly sure why.
Perhaps when I separated the layers with a knife, I fractured the
surface enough to ruin the optical properties.
Then I went to the hardware store, and got 2 things.
First, I got some very reflective aluminized tape, which "seemed" to
have good optical properties. However, again, this didn't
work. Again, don't know why.
Finally, at the hardware store, in the automotive section,
I found a sheet of mirror repair material. It is similar to thick
aluminum foil, but of fairly good optical quality. You can cut it
with sissors. I cut 5 little squares of this material, and glued
them to the dish, as shown:

Anyway, this worked well. However, while
slightly better than when using the thicker mirrors, it still showed
that the different squares didn't reflect to the same points:

This seems to show 2 of the 5 squares reflecting at one point, but the
other 3 being off center.
At this point, I again tried to find another focal point at which all 5
reflectors aimed at the same point.
What I found, was that above, and a bit to the left of the regular
focal point, there was a much better focal point, where all 5
reflections came nearly together:

As you can see above, this was about 2.5" off center, and the surface
of the paper was about 1" forward of the plane defined by the lnbf
holder.
A couple years later, I decided to do the same experiment
with my 10' Orbitron dish (which has now been trashed and replaced by a
10' SAMI). With the Orbitron, I couldn't get any 2 of the mirrors
to focus anywhere near the same point at the same time, although it was
not easy to move the big dish around. I concluded that the mesh
surface was not flat or perfect enough to use just a few mirrors,
although it's possible that I just wasn't able to move the dish around
enough to find the perfect point. I did this at a time when the
sun was crossing the proper azimuth, and was moving the elevation
up/down, trying to find a focal point with a piece of cardboard glued
to the front of the feedhorn. This experiment was a complete
failure.
HOWEVER....... I really recommend the mirror
experiment for small solid surface dishes. Basically, a parabolic
sat dish will
have only one focal point, and from what I've seen, either the
manufacturers don't always put the lnbf holder at the right point, or
that the lnbf holder might be bent.
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